Perfected Push/Pull - the Hive BB

the Hive BB

Crystal Meth

Perfected Push/Pull (Page 1)

profile | register | preferences | faq | search

This topic is 4 pages long: 1 2 3 4

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Author	Topic: Perfected Push/Pull
methhead Member	posted 05-15-99 01:19 PM Step 1:....starting with your pills, crush them in a grinder, and put powder into a large washed out gatorade jug. make sure you wash with distilled water only. 1000 60mg pills, will yield 1 ounce of honey, at a 50% return. Next, add distilled water to the powder, and shake....let settle for a minute or two, and siphon off the water. Repeat steps, until you can't taste the pseudo anymore. The pseudo has a bitter taste to it.. Now, make sure that you filter the liquid through coffee filters until the liquid is completely clear. When you have achieved this, boil it down til it's real low and put on medium heat.....continue cooking it down, until your pseudo starts drying out, then finish with a blow dryer... Remember not to burn your pseudo.... Scrape the powder into a small pile, and put into another washed out Gatorade jug. Then add Methanol.... You'll notice that a binder comes out in the methanol, but was clear in the water. Siphon, and filter, til this is clear......I use about 8 bottles of Heet brand methanol for every 4000 pills worth of powder. Again, filter til clear, then put on stove and boil.....this time, use a fan to blow on the top of your glass bowl to make sure it doesn't spill over and catch fire.....Do the same thing that you did with the first batch, low heat, and blow dry.....Now you'll have pure Pseudo.....The reason for the water pull, is to make sure you remove all the wax, because the wax is completely soluble in methanol. I forgot to mention, that when using the water, make sure it is ICE cold. Then, the methanol will bring out the last binder which is soluble in water. Step 2 coming up, but I have to run.
methhead Member	posted 05-15-99 01:20 PM also, don't forget to use Visonware brand glass containers......they can withstand the heat
slick Member	posted 05-15-99 03:31 PM Methhead, Are 1-pheudo 60mg pills OK for this step? or should I soak the red off some pdeudo-HCL. And can I scale down some, like say 1000 30gm reds? Thanks, Slick
the-madd-hatter Member	posted 05-15-99 06:14 PM too get the red off use ether and water in a large glass or a ball mason jar put pills in with 50 50 water and ether ,,,slush for just a min the red will come out,,filter 3 times and there u go.remember dont slush for too long if your in a hurry use all water ,,,its quick soo watch out then put the honey in a coffe filter and suspend it in air with 3 rubberbands soo your hand dont get burned put the blow dryer on it and your honey will dry good.
methhead Member	posted 05-15-99 08:28 PM you can always scale down.....just remember that 1000 60's, will give you 1 ounce of honey, at a 50% yield.......I usually get a 75% yield since i've perfected it......
methhead Member	posted 05-15-99 08:44 PM step 2:..... okay, now you should have your pseudo ready to go......just remember the ratios that I give you..okay...now to make the push/pull......the best thing about it, is the fact that since it's enclosed, there is no smell and the process only takes an hour or so.......take 2 2.5 gallon plastic gas cans....tape them together with duct tape , so that the can sit side by side. Next, take the nozzles from the the gas cans and attach them together.....usually, I cut the end off of one, and stick the other into it. then I hot glue them together, to seal them. so then you attach them back onto the cans. this allows water from one side, to enter into the other side. Make sure that you screw them back on tight, and that your seal is air tight, so that when you stand them up on their ends, water and/or air does not leak out......Next, take the can on the right side and attach a clear pvc tubing onto the air inlet of the gas can. This you use to run into a sink, or shower, or empty container, cuz sometimes iodine water will get pushed out from the reaction. Make sure you use a hose clamp and hot glue to secure it tightly. Next, take the can on the left, and attach a clear, BRAIDED, hose to the air inlet. This is the hose that will be attached to the stopper on the flask. It has to be braided, so that it won't collapse when the heat and pressure build up on the final rxn phase. Make sure that you use a hose clamp, and some hot glue to attach, cuz you don't want it to come loose. once this is down, fill one of the gas with 4 1/4 gallons of distilled water. Then stand the gas cans on end, so that the air inlets are up, and the U connection you made with the spouts are on the bottom. Attaching the hose to the stopper, can be a bit tricky. I use a threaded pvc connector. PVC won't deteriorate from the acids, or the heat. There's a special name for the type of connector I use, so it would be best if I go find out what it is and let you know, cuz the way it's threaded, it won't get pushed out of the stopper. You can build this setup for around 30 american dollars from parts at home depot. I shall return later with the name. Anyways, after you've connected the hose to the stopper, you're almost ready to go. The reason you have distilled water in the cans, is so that you can create a pressure. The push comes from the contents forcing out oxygen, and the pull comes from a complete hydrogen state, and after the final rxn, it tries to "breathe" back in oxygen. Use distilled water, cuz sometimes the pull is so hard, that it actually sucks water, back into the flask. Back soon with step 3.
Tweaky Bird Member	posted 05-15-99 08:47 PM Plain acetone will get the red off too. Takes like 1-2 hours though, with lots of shaking. [The last 2 times I have posted I have hit the enter key once and gotten 2 entries posted (what the hell?)]
the-madd-hatter Member	posted 05-15-99 10:05 PM hey tweaky bird get your pills out,,,put them in a ball,,,mason jar,,,put 20%ether in and dis water shake ,,,,then filter of with water and your ready too go ok,,,,.cheeeeper that way..tell me what u got then ok..
slick Member	posted 05-15-99 10:24 PM Methhead, Home Depot will get a visit from me tommorrow, Im stoaked! As far as the other post about removing the red, I have no problem with that, I was asking which pills to start with because the 60mg seem to have a binder that is hard to get rid of oppossed to the reds that dont, but thanks for the reply. Methhead Ill be looking for your next post. No fumes, this is killer! Thanks, Slick
methhead Member	posted 05-15-99 11:56 PM slick:....ohhhhh......see, where I live, you can buy bottles of 120 count 60mg pseudo pills. They are an off brand, not walmart bought....they run 25 american dollars a bottle, and don't contain extra binders..... just wax, and methyl cellulose......
store owner dude unregistered	posted 05-16-99 12:09 AM sat methhead say i have a ppound of pure pseudo just laying around my store soo if thats the case what now,,,,,hummmmmmmmmm
the-madd-hatter Member	posted 05-16-99 02:17 AM im in meth chat in microsoft chat form 7 too 1am 7 days ,,,anyone welcome
the-madd-hatter Member	posted 05-16-99 04:35 AM ok methhead is the water pseudo or is the stuuf on the bottom pseudo,,,i let it settle and there is stuff on the bottom and my water still taste like pseudo i just want too do this rite and you are the one helping us soo whats up.
methhead Member	posted 05-16-99 12:52 PM The water contains the psuedo.....siphon off the water, and filter it til it's clear... then the water will contain two things..... Methyl Cellulose, and Pseudo-Ephedrine.... But both are highly soluble in water, thats why it'll appear clear.......after you boil this down, and dry it out, you add the methanol to get out the methyl cellulose... the cellulose is not soluble in methanol, but the pseudo still is.........
methhead Member	posted 05-16-99 12:55 PM okay ladies and germs, I have to leave for a day or two....business.....but I'll be back with the rest......I'll try to get at a computer where i'm at.....if not, i'll see you then.....
fzr96 Member	posted 05-16-99 02:56 PM ok when i was deaming of push and pull it pushed but there was no final pull reaction the water pushed into the second jug but never pulled back into the first jug all that happened is it stopped pushing i let cook for 4 hours methhead can you help me out here i folowed your instructions do you have any thoughts on why it neverdid the final reaction id appreciate any help thanx
slick Member	posted 05-16-99 05:47 PM Methhead, What diameter braided hose did you use and how long? or does it matter? Just got back from home depot and Im ready to get started. I really want to thank you for going thru this again. I think once your perfected method is compiled and complete in detail it should earn a spot on Rodium's page. Good Work! Slick
the-madd-hatter Member	posted 05-16-99 07:21 PM methhead your the man guy. i got back some good huney ,and im ready for the rest guy .if this works out for bigger batches ill send u a mail order bride wrapped in china;s best,,,psuedo,,,now thats funny ,,,,see u in a cuppllleee of days,,, rock on,,,,. *********the-hatter out***************
the-madd-hatter Member	posted 05-16-99 07:23 PM dammm i think the fummes got too my head cat spell good,hehehehehehehehe
buzzcat Member	posted 05-17-99 06:27 AM what is the best RP/I/E/dH20 ratio for the push-pull? tried and true responses only please
buzzcat Member	posted 05-17-99 06:28 AM what is the best RP/I/E/dH20 ratio for the push-pull? tried and true responses only please
toast Member	posted 05-17-99 07:01 AM Allright, well I'm not a chemist (as many of you already know) but it seems the major advantage is it requires no expensive glass ware, no heat (well, Rhodium's said this "Slight external heat may need to be applied to the champagne bottle if there is not enough 'push'. Only experimentation will tell..."), but it looks great... thanks, toast AHH! not meth chemistry... please, no!!!
methhead Member	posted 05-17-99 03:52 PM okay, I'm back....... Step 3:....to answer a couple questions real quick, fzr96.....it shouldn't have cooked for 4 hours......only about 1 to 1 1/2 hours......and if it never pulled, then it was never done........Here, this might help answer the questions...... I use a 4000ml vacuum, or filter flask, cuz it has a nipple on the side. I attach a clear hose to this nipple, with a hose clamp, and pinch the hose closed with a pair of vise grips. Then I'm ready to get started. Here's the ratio..... take whatever amount of E you have, and match it with I. Then divide the amount of E you have, and that's how much R you need to use. My teacher told me though, that if you were to make less than an ounce of honey, you have to use half the amount of R, instead of 1/3. I don't know though, cuz I've never done less than 4 ounces. So, if it's 4 ounces, i should have 240 grams E, 240 grams I, and 80 grams of R. Take the flask, and first dump in the R. Then, dump in the E. Add 3 small capfuls of distilled water. If you're using re-used R, then add a small bump of hydrogen peroxide. Okay, now this part is the best. Add in the I, but be sure to hurry up and stopper the flask. Then use duct tape to wrap around the stopper and neck of flask, to ensure it doesn't pop off on you. Now, pick up the flask and stir the contents. Sometimes it's quick, and sometimes it's not, but the contents inside should start getting liquidy. If it happens quick, the contents will appear to start to grow. Shake more, in order to calm it down, cuz you don't want a fast reaction. You should notice that the water is pushing, and air maybe coming out the right side gas can. Keep stirring and shaking till the entire contents are liquidy. If you look inside the flask, you'll notice tiny little sprinkles everywhere in the mix. This is caused by the I reacting with the R, and creating Hydriodic acid. Keep your eye on it. You'll notice that at first, you have to stir the contents to calm it down. Then after about 15 minutes, it calms down on its own. Then, you have to stir to keep the reaction going. Let this stirring go on for about half an hour or so. Then, get a large stainless steel stock pot, and one of those portable electric stoves. Make sure you use the low burning side.... I went ahead and tested my reaction heat by getting a candy thermometer, and placing the stock pot on the stove and turning it on, I've noticed that you don't ever want your heat to get higher than 180 degrees, and that you should start cooking at 150 degrees... Test your stove out before you cook, and look at the dial on the stove, as to where the certain degrees are. Now, place the stock pot on the stove, at 150 degrees, and place the flask in the pot. Pick up the flask every few minutes and keep stirring, replacing the flask back in the pot. After about half an hour of this, (making it 1 hour total cook time), turn up the heat to 180 degrees and keep the stirring process up. You'll notice that the contents will get real liquidy, and a yellow film will be inside. The mix will look like it wants to literally grow inside the flask. After a few more shakes, let it go, you'll notice that more air and water will get pushed out of the gas can and the reaction will get violent. At this stage, I usually throw a towel over the top of the flask, cuz I've had accidents before, like the hose coming out of the stopper and contents get sprayed everywhere. When the push/pull is a rockin away, then unplug the stove and let it go. When the pushing has stopped, check the flask. The contents should have grown, and filled the entire flask, and a swirling green/white smoke should fill the flask. If this didn't happen, then it's not done. Plug back in the stove, and let it go. This final reaction, is what turns your E into Honey. What happens, is the contents reach a totally hydrogen state. The last of the I has turned into Hydriodic acid and all the oxygen gets pushed out of the flask. This is where you get the pull from...Cuz the hydrogen state combined with heat, creates a pressurized vacuum state. After this final reaction has happened, let the flask cool down, and every 2 minutes, stir the contents. You do this, because when you stir up the contents, you make sure that more E gets turned into Honey. Then when the flask has cooled down to a warm state, keep the nipple hose pinched, and release the vice grips. Place a funnel into the hose, and add distilled water to the funnel, then unpinch the hose and let the water into the flask. Let air get in through the hose cuz if you don't, then as soon as the water hits the inside of the flask, the vacuum will pick up and suck water from the push/ pull. Add more distilled water and remove the duct tape and stopper. Shake the flask around, and pour the contents into a heavy visionware bowl. Add more distilled water to the flask, to clean it out, and add to the visionware. Next, place bowl on the stove, and put on high heat. Get a plastic spoon, and wash with distilled water, to use to stir the mix. Place a fan next to the stove to use to cool the bowl down. Stir the contents to a boil, and remove from heat. Turn the fan on, onto the bowl, and let cool down a bit. You'll notice that all of your R has dropped to the bottom of the bowl, and it's ready to filter. You should have a golden colored liquid. Filter, until all the R is out of the liquid, and place into a rubbermaid "server" jug. I'll be back with the rest in a bit........THE FINAL STEPS>>>
methhead Member	posted 05-17-99 03:56 PM buzzcat......ratios go .... .... .... E//equal amount of I// 1/3 R// and a capful of distilled water for every ounce of E. Use the cap from the gallon jug of distilled water.
methhead Member	posted 05-17-99 03:57 PM example would be.... ... ... ...240 grams E/ 240 grams I/ 80 grams R/ and ...four capfuls of water.
buzzcat Member	posted 05-17-99 09:04 PM thanks for the ratio info methead also wanted to add that those 2 1/2 gal clorine jugs and a 2 ft. flexible radiator hose are a good substitute for the gas cans dream on
toast Member	posted 05-18-99 02:02 PM methhead, Forgive my uhh... ignorance (I guess) but theres a few things in the push pull I don't understand, well one thing actually, then a suggestion. Ok in step 2, you say to use 2 2.5 gallon gas tanks, then you say to fill ONE of the gas cans with 4 1/4 gallons of dH2O, do you mean 1 gallon (4 1/4) or 4.25/2 (2.125 in each tank), because if its a 2.5 gallon tank, obviously you can't put 4.25 gallons in it... Also, for the stopper and hose thing, couldn't you just put a glass tube through the hole in the stopper, then attatch the hose to this tube with a hose clamp? Anyway, you've got a great METHod going here, and I appreciate your post... thanks, toast
methhead Member	posted 05-18-99 05:15 PM toast...if you read carefully, you're supposed to attach the two cans together.... this creates a five gallon container, connected by the two spouts. And about the amounts, you're right, I was miscalculating. fill it so water is just under halfway on both sides. As far as the glass tube goes, this would be ok, but I wouldn't dare chance it......if the tube break under pressure, then you're fucked. Trust me, I've been doing this toooooo damn long.... that's why i'm giving the world my recipe........for every meth lab they close, I will personally see to it that 6 more get opened..............................
methhead Member	posted 05-18-99 05:17 PM oops, sorry, forgot......that's 2 and 1/4 gallons, not 4 and 1/4 gallons......
slick Member	posted 05-18-99 05:49 PM Methhead, Sorry to bug ya bud but how about the answer to my above question? want to do the right, ya know. Ever find out what pvc fittings you used? Ready ta go just need info, Thanks, Slick
slick Member	posted 05-18-99 05:49 PM Methhead, Sorry to bug ya bud but how about the answer to my above question? want to do the right, ya know. Ever find out what pvc fittings you used? Ready ta go just need info, Thanks, Slick
Mr.Sandman Member	posted 05-18-99 06:37 PM not meaning to waste space here.....sorry all you killer bees out there....just had to say that.....methead is the top bee in my books.....hes got the volume cranked up real loud in my dreams and im almost waking up......keep it real.....sorry bout the wasted post just had to make a toast....!!
toast Member	posted 05-19-99 04:22 PM well, perhaps home depot can expect a visit from me also soon (for a totally unrelated reason), as I was able to find a 4000 mL filtering flask (also, for a totally unrelated reason) did you ever find the name of that PVC fitting?
toast Member	posted 05-19-99 04:37 PM Also, methhead, could you recomend a type of oven to use (I know it seems silly), perhaps give me a price on one. And another thing, do you put water in the bottom of the pot, I'm assuming not. These may seem like stupid questions but like slick said, something like "I want to do the right thing, ya know?" and I do, I'd rather come accross as stupid, than fail completely because I forgot to ask... (of course none of this info is for the synth, I'm into baking cakes and cookies (the oven) and I'd hate to fuck up a cake) those flasks are real handy in measuring cooking oil and stuff
toast Member	posted 05-20-99 07:55 PM methhead, sorry to bug you, or anyone, I feel like I am by posting so much, but...I too have little chemistry knowledge (you said the same about yourself in a different push/pull post)... are the final steps all that important? perhaps you have an e-mail where I can contact your privately instead of bugging all the killer bees? thanks...
slick Member	posted 05-20-99 08:14 PM OOOOOOHHHHH methhead where are you?????????? Dont run out on us, Whats up? Slick
Z28 unregistered	posted 05-24-99 03:49 PM The I that is used in this recipe, is that Iodine Crystals? If not what type of iodine is used? Z28
slick Member	posted 05-24-99 04:39 PM Methhead, I've been seeing alot of miss conseption by some of our bees, it would be real nice if you straightened these folks out that put there faith in your method. View the Attn, methhead thread and look at the site. This guy is prowd to share your theory but has his appaeratus all wrong. I had a hard time getting you to even post because nobody showed any interest. Now we are and your gone. Not to mention Ive got apile of shit from homedepot Im not sure what to do with. Slick
methhead Member	posted 05-24-99 05:31 PM okay, i'm back.......So sorry bees, but duty calls, and I keep things interstate.....that way it's harder for local jurisdictions to do anything........one drawback, is that interstate means Federal........But just remember, that no matter how long I am gone, I'll always return here.........
slick Member	posted 05-24-99 05:48 PM Methhead, Glad to see your back I was worried, now please give me some answers. Slick
methhead Member	posted 05-24-99 06:14 PM FINAL STEPS>>>>>>>okay boys and ghouls, yes, this is the most important part, and if you follow everything right, you won't even need to wash the shit......trust me, my honey has never needed a washing YET!.....almost never leaves a residue in the pipe.....trust me... where i live.....i'm just about number one in quality......and i'll be chatting to TOAST about pics.............okay........ put the yellow colored liquid into the rubbermaid server jug from wal-mart..... this is acid/honey water.......put in a small layer of ice (bag of ice bought from any store, cuz it's allllll distilled), then add an equal portion of Colemans fuel..... if you don't use ice, you're going to get a volcano eruption of lye/acid/colemans all over the place.......when the lye hits the acid, it'll heat up and create alot of pressure......the ice keeps this from happening, until you shake up the container.. next, add about 1/4 can of Red Devil Lye... in mine, it takes about a 1/2 can...... but you don't want to overkill the lye or you'll lose everything.......now screw on the pop-top lid, and shake, with small towel over the top....just in case of leakage.... the jug should heat up and expand.....let settle for a second, and undo the pop-top to let out pressure, close, and repeat...... add more lye as you go along, until you get a very strong cat urine/ammonia smell..... when your nostrils have received this little message, it's time to let the mix settle, and siphon........take a large gatorade bottle, and poke a hole in the screw top.... next, wash out the bottle, and cap thoroughly, using distilled water........ next, siphon the colemans, into a filtered funnel, into the gatorade bottle.......now, you should have one gatorade bottle, with honey/colemans fuel in it........add an equal amount of distilled water to this.... then, shake the contents up..always remember to cover the hole in the top with your finger when shaking.......turn the bottle over, holding the hole closed, and let settle, then with your other hand, grab a 3-way pool test strip and place over a shot glass, then let a small amount of water run over the ph part of the strip....the color should be a violet blue........lots of honey in there folks......so, turn the jug upright again, and remove cap......next, we have to "push" the honey into the water.... to do this, get some muriatic acid, and a small bottle with a dropper type top on it. fill this with muriatic, and add a small squirt into the bottle.......if you look at the water when you do this, you'll see the acid fall to the bottom, and quickly surface. But, with the acid, you'll see ribbons of honey stay in the water........cover the hole with your finger again, and shake..... turn the bottle over, holding the hole with your finger, and test again.....keep repeating this, until the ph strip turns a reddish-pink color......this is the ph level you need to keep it at.....if the strip goes yellow, that means there's too much acid and there's nothing you can do about it... at least not if you haven't saved anything in your shot glass......just take the water from the shot glass, and add it to the jug, then retest.......if the strip is okay, then replace a clean visionware bowl on the stove, and drain the water into it.....bee careful not to let the colemans fuel fall into it, or your honey will be good, but tainted......if some does get through, take lighter, and light the top of the water, and the colemans will burn away........ now, turn it up to a boil, and wait till you see it "cracking back". you should have the fan on it, to help it go faster. When it starts to "crack back" alot, remove from heat, and place the bowl in ice water.... WARNING.....make sure its a Corning VisionsWare bowl....it's the only glass bowl that I know of that can go from extreme heat and cold......other glass bowls would shatter upon even touching the ice cold water..... after putting the bowl in ice water, make sure you get a blow dryer, and blow air into the bowl to help it dry......if it's still too liquidy after 5 minutes, then replace on the heat for a few more minutes and repeat.. if you're too afraid of hurting the honey, then just use the blow dryer to dry the rest of the way..........well folks, all I can do to help you, is answer questions, take some pictures, and MAKE THE VIDEO..... wonder if I should charge?....doubt it..... knowledge is free.......
slick Member	posted 05-24-99 06:29 PM Methhead, Please send me the same drawing your sending toast so Im sure I got this right. Thanks Slick
methhead Member	posted 05-24-99 06:34 PM according to your other post, you do have it right.....connection on bottom, inlet and outlet on top.
slick Member	posted 05-24-99 06:46 PM OOps! richard@98rockmail.com Did I forget something? Slick
slick Member	posted 05-24-99 06:57 PM Methhead, Void last message, lets keep this on your thread, Im going crazy trying to move all around. And Toast, I look forward to your graghics once correct, sorry bud. Slick out PS. MH please answer my previous questions.
methhead Member	posted 05-24-99 10:42 PM slick......sorry....don't have those names yet, went outta town, but I'll have those names, and more info later......... I'm trying to make this as easy as possible I'm no chemist, and don't wish to be one... but I know how to do what I do, and if I say that I'm one of the best, and this sounds egotistical, then so be it......but it is also the truth........I've always been interested in quality, after all, people should get what they pay for......and it took painstaking time and money to perfect some of what is THIS cities BEST honey... I've searched in other states for the same, and have found nothing but crap........ I enjoy teaching this to you all, for one reason.........wellll, two reasons....... for one, KNOWLEDGE IS POWER, and I seen an inscription somewhere once........it read like this......."for every meth lab you shut down, I will personally open 6 more"......so I said to myself, the more people who create this, just floods the whole damn system up, and keeps the gov going crazy......... I can't stand the B.S. people have to face, just because they like to get high...... It takes the stress out of peoples lives. They can let us kill ourselves with alcohol and tobacco, but god forbid that we should party with things that they can't tax, or control........sorry for the ramblings, but I thought everyone should know the top 2 reasons as too why I am just freely giving away one of the best recipes to come along.. My teacher was a dumbass for one reason, and remember this.......his honey was okay, but still was crap because.......HE LIKED SHORTCUTS........NEVER USE SHORTCUTS...... your honey will never be as good as mine if you do...............but all the same, to each his own, and now i'll quit my stupid rambling........Thanks to Toast, and Slick.. hopefully, you'll get my recipe right, and help give to others.......
slick Member	posted 05-24-99 11:04 PM Wow! Some powerful words my bee friend, You must be 1/2 lite too. Lets talk when where straight.@%^%$(&^(&^^$^&$&%)(_}()(&%^&%&^%&^)(()^()(()&)(&(&%$^30980- this is enqrypted for the simplest Meth. recipe ever HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SLICK OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
methhead Member	posted 05-25-99 01:37 AM fortunatley Slick, I've never touched the stuff......personally, I have an addiction to painkillers........Vicodin, Lortab, it's allllll Hydrocodone, and this is my ONLY vice......I don't even drink......and unfortunatly, I haven't had a pill in a week.....hehehhehe.......maybe this explains the rampage.......but then again, I feel this way no matter what.........
methhead Member	posted 05-25-99 04:13 AM sorry guys, but once again, I have to take a small trip, so I'll be gone for a day or two. But I think I'll come back with polaroid snapshots this time........Toast?.....maybe you wanna upload them to the xoom site?
toast Member	posted 05-25-99 06:45 AM I'd be happy to do that methhead... it'd be great!, i'll add a little "picture by methhead" blurb in the corner too... one question, two actually, kinda three... do you know when you've added enough NaOH by when it smells like urine/ammonia? is there another way to tell? and, how many layers are there in the last gatorade jug, 2 or 3? is the water layer also the acid layer, or does the acid go into the coleman layer, or is the coleman layer seperate from the acid and the water layer? thanks for the info dude... oh yeah, can I use a pyrex glass bowl, have you ever tried this?

This topic is 4 pages long: 1 2 3 4 All times are CT (US)	next newest topic \| next oldest topic
Administrative Options: Close Topic \| Archive/Move \| Delete Topic
	Hop to:

Contact Us | the Hive